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[Sloppyjakky`]

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good luck on your life bro

 

[Linus]

 

[korg]

 

[worldatwar]

if it was really only for israelites then 2.4 billion people that aren't israelites wouldn't be following it if they didn't benefit from it

it wasn't meant for us nor did it benefit us, the africans, the asians, the australian aboriginals, among other peoples.

I already explained why that's not the case
Like I said, Jesus used the word for a little dog or a pet dog rather than a wild dog
If Jesus would be calling her a dog in a dehumanizing way he would have used the word "κύων" (which means wild dog), instead he used the word "κυνάριον" (which means little dog)

it wouldn't have mattered if he were to had called her a pet dog or a wild one, as dogs in general, according to jews, were unclean in nature. it isn't a generic run-of-the-mill insult either, rather it was specifically to tell her that she was unclean.

the context of the analogy He used matters too, since he was talking about a household with children and a pet dog
doesn't really sound dehumanizing, does it?

the analogy was about the children being the israelites and the dog being gentiles.

 

[korg]

it wouldn't have mattered if he were to had called her a pet dog or a wild one, as dogs in general, according to jews, were unclean in nature. it isn't a generic run-of-the-mill insult either, rather it was specifically to tell her that she was unclean.

the analogy was about the children being the israelites and the dog being gentiles.

deboonk in case anyone needs this or whatever



Jesus’ use of “dog” language does reflect a real Jewish–Gentile boundary, but in this passage the issue is priority, not worth or uncleanness. He says the children should be fed first, not only, which fits the broader biblical pattern of an Israel-first mission rather than ethnic exclusion. The specific word kynárion (“little” or “household dog”) also matters because it suggests closeness within the household, not a harsh or dehumanizing slur aimed at filth or scavengers.
More importantly, the way the story unfolds pushes back against the idea that Jesus is demeaning her. The woman engages him, presses his own metaphor further, and even “wins” the exchange, which would have been striking in that cultural context. Jesus then openly praises her faith and grants her request. If the goal were to label her as impure or inferior, the story would end in rejection; instead, it ends in affirmation and inclusion, with the Gentile woman standing out as a model of faith over against the insiders.
So while the language is clearly provocative, it works as a test that exposes assumptions and leads to boundary crossing, not as an endorsement of ethnic contempt.

 

[Goot]

deboonk in case anyone needs this or whatever



Jesus’ use of “dog” language does reflect a real Jewish–Gentile boundary, but in this passage the issue is priority, not worth or uncleanness. He says the children should be fed first, not only, which fits the broader biblical pattern of an Israel-first mission rather than ethnic exclusion. The specific word kynárion (“little” or “household dog”) also matters because it suggests closeness within the household, not a harsh or dehumanizing slur aimed at filth or scavengers.
More importantly, the way the story unfolds pushes back against the idea that Jesus is demeaning her. The woman engages him, presses his own metaphor further, and even “wins” the exchange, which would have been striking in that cultural context. Jesus then openly praises her faith and grants her request. If the goal were to label her as impure or inferior, the story would end in rejection; instead, it ends in affirmation and inclusion, with the Gentile woman standing out as a model of faith over against the insiders.
So while the language is clearly provocative, it works as a test that exposes assumptions and leads to boundary crossing, not as an endorsement of ethnic contempt.

Oh so it's saying a good gentile > bad beleiver

 

[korg]

Oh so it's saying a good gentile > bad beleiver

Not quite
The first mission was directed at the Jews, and then the Gentiles
As Jews began to reject Jesus' message, then came the turn of the Gentiles

 

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[worldatwar]

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The ones on this thread

 

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[jim🅱️o_fans_arent_white]

I don't like the sentence "Christ is king" for some reason, not because Christ isn't king, but because it has been overused to death by branoons and doesn't even have Christian origins, it only came into place a few years ago.

 

[LesothoSoldier1488]

i don't trust this thread due to what kind of atrocities OP has done about the said religion

 

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I don't like the sentence "Christ is king" for some reason, not because Christ isn't king, but because it has been overused to death by branoons and doesn't even have Christian origins, it only came into place a few years ago.

Finally somebody else who thinks this.

 

[korg]

I don't like the sentence "Christ is king" for some reason, not because Christ isn't king, but because it has been overused to death by branoons and doesn't even have Christian origins, it only came into place a few years ago.

Same
Christ didn't just claim to be king, he claimed to be king of kings and lord of lords